Yet more evidence brain-on Americans did not respond to the 24/7 FEAR crusade going on for over a year. It's given us time to think about what is really happening and to do individual research into this H1N1 vaccine clutter.
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Many of us knew there would be some “false flag†disaster as a means for the government to gain more power, and that is exactly what happened as Obama declared the (so-far) MILD flu season an “Emergencyâ€.Â
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Others thought this “flu†pandemic would be released in China at the Olympics, but they must not have been able to get it accomplished in a timely manner. (I know, ‘Conspiracies R Us’)
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Please click below to read Bill Sardi's full story about what prompted the National Emergency and will the government silence opposition to vaccination by taking control of the internet in an effort to limit our freedom of speech and shut down alternate views and information research.
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Reveals Massive Repudiation of American Government
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"The American government may have left itself exposed to revealing just how strongly the public opposes its flu vaccination campaign. For the first time Americans can count how many of its citizens opted for or against flu vaccination, and the numbers are appalling.
After months of drum-beating, that the so-called late-2009 season H1N1 "swine flu" could develop into a more severe pandemic with greater loss of life as the winter flu season approached, Americans have not bought into government-generated flu hysteria.
Americans are hearing just 22.4 million doses of flu vaccine are available, which is posed as a vast shortage. But news sources indicate only about 11 million Americans have been vaccinated to date, an underwhelming public response to the government's massive crusade to vaccinate up to 70–80% of the population (210–240 million Americans).Â
 That goal has been trimmed to 159 million, about half the population, and production delays mean millions of Americans would have to wait till the flu season is almost over to undergo inoculation next spring. Why get vaccinated at all?
Then health writers Shannon Brownlee and Jeanne Lenzer unleashed a scathing online article against flu vaccinationin the November issue of Atlantic Magazine, a blow that could have pushed government to announce that it may shut down parts of the internet should a flu pandemic cause Americans to flood the internet."
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I read that in your link above- online article against flu vaccination.
Often studies are so poorly done.
Why not look at the bright side of this Don: Be happy that those who don't want it wont be having to get it, leaving more for those that do want it?
I have a copy of an injunction just filed in Federal Court against the government of the United States and KATHLEEN SEBELIUS, Secretary,
States Department of Health and Human
Services; THOMAS R. FRIEDEN, M.D., M.P.H.,
Director, United States Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention; FRANCIS S.
COLLINS, M.D., Ph.D., Director,
United States National Institutes of
Health; and MARGARET ANN HAMBURG , M.D.,
Commissioner, United States Food and
Drug Administration.
Also named as defendants are several multinational corporations and individuals.
To invalidate the federal and state laws to force mandatory inoculation and/or quarantine. The injunction contains all of the details and specifics and the laws to be invalidated.
It's much too long to post on Gather and my website where I store things like this is down for repairs until November 3rd. I would love to send you a copy of this suit as an MS Word document if you send me your private email address to my private email vladilyich@yahoo.com (I don't mind giving this out because I have a good spam filter :) )
Somebody if fighting this the right way!!!
controlling the population
making sure that working people can't rebel against the looters in DC
~~~
I guess the government is not going to get it's 'good crisis'!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEXT PROBLEM WITH THE ARTICLE. Despite the Fact that only about half the doses of vaccine available had been administered at the date of publication, LONG LINES HAVE BEEN COMMON AT CLINICS WHERE THE VACCINE IS AVAILABLE. People are DYING of H1N1 flu.
IF YOU DON'T GET H1N1 YOU DON'T GET COMPLICATIONS.
You are the one asserting that THE VACCINE SHOULD NOT BE ADMINISTERED BECAUSE IT IS BETTER TO DIE FROM COMPLICATIONS OF THE FLU THAN FROM COMPLICATIONS FROM THE INOCULATION. By the way, the odds of dying from FLU complications are about a thousand fold higher than the odds of dying from the vaccine.
I will NEVER live in fear of anything as fake as this flu scam.
Keep this in mind -- "Faith is believing in what you KNOW is not true."
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977877283
I erroneously noted the figure of 13K dying of the flu (because that's what most brain-off people understand) but in reality, it is exactly what John said - they did not die from the flu. Thanks John for putting that link HERE.
And, Ramona, this "sudo-crisis" was the catalyst for declaring the "emergency" - to allow dangerous power and to get the population use to it. Nothing unusual will happen THIS time (with this power) to keep people off guard, but just wait until another false flag appears!!!
"The annals of medicine are littered with treatments and tests that became medical doctrine on the slimmest of evidence, and were then declared sacrosanct and beyond scientific investigation. In the 1980s and ’90s, for example, cancer specialists were convinced that high-dose chemotherapy followed by a bone-marrow transplant was the best hope for women with advanced breast cancer, and many refused to enroll their patients in randomized clinical trials that were designed to test transplants against the standard—and far less toxic—therapy. The trials, they said, were unethical, because they knew transplants worked. When the studies were concluded, in 1999 and 2000, it turned out that bone-marrow transplants were killing patients.
Another recent example involves drugs related to the analgesic lidocaine. In the 1970s, doctors noticed that the drugs seemed to make the heart beat rhythmically, and they began prescribing them to patients suffering from irregular heartbeats, assuming that restoring a proper rhythm would reduce the patient’s risk of dying. Prominent cardiologists for years opposed clinical trials of the drugs, saying it would be medical malpractice to withhold them from patients in a control group. The drugs were widely used for two decades, until a government-sponsored study showed in 1989 that patients who were prescribed the medicine were three and a half times as likely to die as those given a placebo."
The circular reasoning that says; "These drugs are what some experts believe to be our best bet, and therefore it's immoral to actually test them realistically", may sound reasonable at first take, but it's just plain irresponsible, in my view, to be injecting people on a mass scale, with untested pharmaceuticals.
The trials are the basis for all the fear mongering about the vaccine.
See, the real problem is there is supporting info out there on both sides, we just have to decide whic we WANT to believe and live with that decision.
I can't nor do I want to change your mind - I don't want that responsibility. Take from the messages what you will and then move on. Many here think it's about right or wrong, black or white, or win or loose. Choice is freedom is what I want to keep.
"John, it would seem to me that you are saying that some treatment is not as effective and safe as some other "
No, as that second example clearly shows (in this instance a drug called 'lidocaine') , sometimes "treatments", result in three and a half times more deaths, than sugar pills . . . If you were even one tenth the expert you;re pretending to be, you would not have missed that striking detail, me thinks.
On the other hand, you are arguing that the supposed cure for breast cancer was killing more people than the disease untreated. I DON'T THINK SO.
Problem with your thinking is you are telling us how not to treat breast cancer while we worry and fret about what to do about influenza, that will not be fatal for most of the people who contract it. It has killed thousands in the USA already, and it will kill more. Avoiding it is the priority. Curing is it beyond medical science. Prevention through vaccination is effective, and relatively safe. Far more people will die from complications of the disease than will die from the vaccine.
Our medicine has, thankfully, evolved, but it is not perfect, and if you look at reality and then look beneath, you can find whether it's about the money or for the good of the people.
Now I'm reading both sides of the issue and seriously reconsidering getting the shot. I have, however, very serious problems that can occur from a simple chest cold, let alone the H1N1 flu. I have already had my regular flu shot, and am not due for a pheumonia shot for another few years. So, I am caught between a rock and a hard place.
One of the leading pediatricians at the Kings Daughters Children's Hospital in Norfolk, VA wrote an article recommending that children and pregnant women receive the H1N1 shot and he refuted the accusations that have been circulated about its ineffectivness. He was convincing that this was a serious situation and should not be ignored through ignorance or scare tactics.
Since I am a senior citizen, and have a serious health problem, I felt I should do everything possible to avoid contracting this new virus. That included getting the H1N1 Flu shot. However, if I do not get the vaccine, and should become ill, in all likelyhood, I would not survive.
What does one do when they find themselves in a catch-22 situation such as this? Who should I believe? I was willing to trust my doctor as he has cared for me for nearly 10 years now. I know from experience that he would not put my health in jeprody.
I'm beginning to feel as though too much information is not a good thing.
You're in a tuff spot, I guess, at least as far as determining which is the best course of action on this vaccine. . . but honest, "experts" that speak of "ignorance and fear tactics", as though they actually KNEW everything was just fine and dandy here . . . would be the very first people I'd cross off the list of credible authorities on the subject. Obviously, there is no profit motive, in warning people, so all this hubbub, cannot rationally be written off as just a con.
Your long term doctor would probably be your best bet, but I'd double check if possible, by having at least a brief discussion to find out if he is aware of the down-side risks, and the warnings being made by other authorities on the subject. Odd as this may sound, doctors tend to be rather busy people . . .
(If you believe in God (or even suspect One), a prayer for some guidance would certainly be in order. . and . . . I'd ask if your docctor was getting it himself . . . ; )
Have you checked with your local village idiot and recieved his recommedation too?
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977877283
I would never tell you what to do, but ask questions so you are comfortable.
Seriously, it is not what Linda of the bloggers she has posted said that has me questioning. Of course I do realize there is some merit in the fact that this vaccine is new. But so were a lot of other meds newly prepared for epidemics we didn't expect. So I realize that because people have much more access to information than ever before, there is going to be sides taken for and against. Everybody wants to be the expert.
Since I have already discussed this with my primary care physician, and am going to discuss it with my pulmonary doctor, I am most surely going to follow their recommendation.
Even as I type this, I fully realize that everyone has an opinion but everyone does not have a medical problem. Therefore, it only makes sense to weigh the risks and do as my doctors feel is best in my case.
I usually type up a concise list of issues, no matter how slight they may seem, just in case there is some relation between what has been wrong in the past and could be some result of what I have had to deal with. My doctor says he wishes more of his patients would do the same as it gives him something in my file to refer back to. He appreciates it, and it's easier than trying to remember at the last minute some minor thing I wanted to ask about.
I look at some comparisons which make no real sense yet the author is bold in assessing them. To say 1000 people dying from this swine type flu is nothing compared to the 13K who died in one quarter last year is not even sensible. The regular flu season runs from about November to late April yet this different swine flu has been a killer in the off season period does indicate its victims could get off the charts. As flu season approaches more younger folks are getting sicker and have many complications from the initial onset of the flu. Most people I know who have children are seeking the vaccinations and awaiting their turn to receive them. While the distribution for the vaccinations has been slow schools and a few offices in this area have closed to thoroughly disinfect the premises in hopes to reduce the spread of the flu virus.
I see this whole fight against people getting vaccinations against the H1N1 flu as simply a fight against the government and this administration. Many of the test often said didn't exist were conducted here in St Louis and so far there have been scare reactions. The test were conducted the same way the regular annual flu vaccine test are done and unless some giant unforeseen boogeyman pops up I don't see any more cause for alarm about the H1N1 vaccine as I do the regular annual one.
I have.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977877283
Being the Harvard scholar that you purport to be, DID you go to and read any of the links here?
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Second problem name a vaccine injected into children under 6 months of age. Please.
Shutting down the internet? Wow, that doesn't surprise me one bit. What's next burning books in the library?? God forbid we live in our free country and have our freedom.
But come on.
This is from a report based on CDC data. IT IS NOT A CDC QUOTE. "Except for children, CDC officials do not keep an exact count of all U.S. swine flu deaths, but say the number has surpassed 1,000. They don't have a tally of all swine flu illnesses, either, but say many millions have been at least mildly sickened by the virus since it was first identified in April."
That IS EXACTLY THE SAME TYPE OF MATERIAL YOUR REFERRED ARTICLE CONTAINS, AND YOUR OWN ARTICLES CONTAIN, AND BOTH ARE SLANTED.