Democrats Smear Campaign About to Backfire

Great post Nora.
I did a quick post on Lie #1 yesterday and have been watching the news about this as it comes out all day. This may be Obama's 'watergate' and just the fact that Blago wants him subpeoned to testify casts doubt on BO's integrity. Also, since the information he would be testifying on all occured before he became President, he can't invoke Executive Privledge to avoid giving testimony.
A little more every day leaks out about this. I think I'm going to sign out of here and go watch Fox to see what else is being said.
BTW, I've only found reports about this whole thing on Fox, CNN and the Wall Street Journal. Don't the other media reporters have anything to say about this? Interesting.

I noticed that you found your on ABC.

I can't wait to see how this plays out. He probably can have the whole thing postponed while he's the president.

I believe I read the trial is set to start June 3rd, so no, I don't think he can postpone it that long. And besides, he will have to testify about things that occured BEFORE he became president, so he can't use his office as an excuse either. I hope the judge makes him testify. I think this already puts his credibility to the test as he claimed he didn't know anything about this and now witnesses are saying 'oh yeah, he did!'.

I bet it gets postponed... Or, they will manage to block hearing all of the tapes.

Obama has many years experience in and around corrupt Chicago politics. If anything, he's probably arrogantly figuring he's smarter than everyone and above being caught in anything.

Yes, isn't it amazing how obvious his arrogance is? And did you see his "frowny face" when he got heckled the other night? Spoiled brat face for certain!

Just because he's gotten away with it all along, doesn't mean there won't be someone (A Federal Judge perhaps) who stops this behavior in it's tracks and calls him to task.

The "Federal Judges" are about to become majority liberal...

No, if you're talking about the Supreme Court Justices, the one who is leaving is a liberal, and will probably be replaced by another liberal, maintaining the balance that exists now.
The US District Court Judge in the case is a Federal Judge and can force him to testify.

You're right, I forgot. So, it seems that Justice Kennedy, will be the determiner.

Is the District in Chicago?

U.S. District Judge James Zagel is presiding over the case. I'm not really sure if it's Chicago.

Crossing my fingers that it's not. Hmmm suppose we could get a change of venue to Texas? L O L

I just did a little search on the Judge, yes it is in Chicago (so it seems); he was appointed by Ronald Reagan ;-) and they had better stop making Polish jokes on that other thread because his father was born in Warsaw,Poland before coming to the US.

Sigh...

I think it's good. If he was appointed by Ronald Reagan AND is a first generation Pole in Chicago, he is most likely to lean on the conservative side. He also has made it very clear that he will decide what tapes will be allowed to be heard by the jury and will not allow any 'head butting' or stunts. He wants all the tapes that they want put into evidence by 5/14 so he can review them before trial.

Bless your heart Katie, you've given me hope that the truth will come out! Thank you so much for your research.

Really, it was MY pleasure!

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Thanks, Nora. Excellent post! I love that you found the numbers about Goldman Sachs. You know...if Dems want to be misinformed and stay that way, that's one thing. But it bugs me when they try to insist that their lies are truth.

When I kept hearing about how much banks have given to the Democrats and now with the questioning of this current financial bill and the Dems defense that the Republicans are lying about what's in it because the Republicans are supposedly in bed with the banks. Grrrr

The fact that Fannie Mae nor Freddie Mac will have any new oversight really bugs me and is reason enough for it not to be signed. And yet, the left's excuse is that the Republicans lie. Sheeesh!

Yes, well, I'm rather proud of the "party of no" these days when they're sticking up for us against the Dems.

I call it the Party of "Know"... We know what to expect from too much spending which leads to increased taxes which leads to downturn in business which leads to loss of employment which leads to a really big DEPRESSION! And if prices get too low and farmers quit farming it could lead to starvation.

Although the left says that we are just a "racist, radical, say No party" just because we don't want to go the route above..... I jsut happen think it's Right to be Right!

Better yet it's the party that knows when to say no.

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Amen, Col. George.

The people that voted Obama in were idiots themselves... There were so many signs to let everyone see what kind of people that he associated with.,, he was just as guilty... I still think he is a racist and a radical...Lets see, if he can bs himself out of this one... It will probably be another Bill Clinton crap.... I did not have sex with that woman.. So, oral sex is not sex... the word sex is still in it no matter how you look at it... and anyone who buys into their lies are either only thinking with a pea size part of their brains.. or havent any morals themselves... And I dont care if the libs read this and like it or not... I have said, it before and I will say it again.. They are the liars Nora....

Won't get an argument from me! : )

It doesnt do any good Nora, to even try to get your point across.. They are like a bunch of spoiled kids fighting to get their way... I dont even think its worth the energy of arguing with them.... All, you usually get back are a bunch of names and insults...No joke, I feel like I am in the middle of a playground, with a bunch of mean wittle kids wunning awound in circles whining, instead of my daddy can beat your daddy up... They are chanting Obama can do it, yes he can... ummmmmm Obama... This isnt debate, its pre school...

Never give up in sharing the truth. Regarding the name calling, I ignore it, point it out as weak arguments, which it is and happens when they know they've lost a valid point. So I chock it up as a win when they start.

There's an old saying taught to little children having to deal with playground name calling. "You can call me a purple cow, but that doesn't make me one!"

Even when the GM loan is paid back, the govt will STILL own 61% of G.M. thus the control

Good point. Are the people who purchased GM bonds in good faith going to get reimbursed as well after getting screwed to the benefit of the unions that help destroy the automotive powerhouse?

So we can still call it Government Motors!

Hmmm, my gut feeling Jeff is a no. My husband has decided our next vehicle will be anything but a GM. He is so angry at the deal they gave the union at the expense of the investors which included a bunch of everyday people in pension funds of their own.

Salaried G.M. retirees are STILL fighting for their retirement and health benefits the feds stole.

Whoops, they don't have the union backing them and lying down with Obama

The chickens are definitely coming home to roost.

We need to all be on the alert for more of their lies.

Just listen to anything they say, it's a lie.

Here is the biggest part of GM paying back its loan. They shorted the pensions by 19 billion to pay back Government Motors to help create a false image that Barrys takeover had positive results. I wonder how the retirees of GM are feeling right now about this.

In 2005, the Senate Banking Committee, then under Republican control, adopted a strong reform bill, introduced by Republican Sens. Elizabeth Dole, John Sununu and Chuck Hagel, and supported by then chairman Richard Shelby. The bill prohibited the GSEs from holding portfolios, and gave their regulator prudential authority (such as setting capital requirements) roughly equivalent to a bank regulator. In light of the current financial crisis, this bill was probably the most important piece of financial regulation before Congress in 2005 and 2006. All the Republicans on the Committee supported the bill, and all the Democrats voted against it. Mr. McCain endorsed the legislation in a speech on the Senate floor. Mr. Obama, like all other Democrats, remained silent. If the Democrats had let the 2005 legislation come to a vote, the huge growth in the subprime and Alt-A loan portfolios of Fannie and Freddie could not have occurred, and the scale of the financial meltdown would have been substantially less. The same politicians who today decry the lack of intervention to stop excess risk taking in 2005-2006 were the ones who blocked the only legislative effort that could have stopped it. And Barry voted no!

Does this make Barry and the Dems the party of "NO"

Thank you Eric for a terrific synopsis of where the real blame lies. What makes me really angry about the current finance bill is that it has NO new regulations for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. When I read that, my stomach dropped.... When will it end???

And Eric, you have provided a great example of another proven lie: "same politicians who today decry the lack of intervention to stop excess risk taking in 2005-2006 were the ones who blocked the only legislative effort that could have stopped it."

Barry has been a straw man since he stopped smoking weed!!!!

Just stopped to support you and say hi Nora.

Hi Jackie! Thanks for stopping by.

When the republicans are in bed with the banks they wear protection.

At least you'll admit that the Dems are too. With a 3 to 1 margin of cash paid to winning hooker eh? (see achart above)

Hey Nora, good article... I say give them some sodium pentothol.

Maybe that ought to be another requirement for running for office, sodium pentothol and a long list of questions before we turn them loose to wreck havoc!

That would work!

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Now, you won't have to delete my comment Nora.

Truth hurts doesn't it? 3 to 1 in Goldman Sachs contributions to Dems over Repubs. Now who's in bed with the banks? And hey, how about that Blago deal? Chicago "Toughs" it out!

Don't expect your GM pay back too soon.

Now Nora, Cena is the comic relief of gatherworld.

Thanks for the chuckle Cena!

You're right Sue! Thank you Cena for a good giggle... Right is Right! YES!

I know nothing about the Blago story so I cannot give a considered opinion about that.

The second "lie" is the truth. The Republicans are in bed with the banks. The Democrats are, too. (You must have expected this response since I have been saying that big money controls Congress and the Administration for a couple of years now on Gather.)

The third lie is being spread by GM. I have heard and seen nothing on the news from the Democrats about that. I have seen a couple of big (expensive) ads by GM to that effect.

So are you comparing these lies with the popular, well known Republican lies? Which Republican lies will you use for that comparison? Big ones like WMD in Iraq or the need to invade Afghanistan or little ones like the "Death Panels" in the Health Care bill?

Your "seen nothing on the news from the Democrats" is funny. Of course you haven't, they've been claiming the "GM pay back" as a success story.

Am disappointed in your obvious bias.

Nora,

How is the fact I have seen nothing on the news from the Democrats an obvious bias? Please explain as I am too biased to understand.

Or were you referring to my whole response as biased?

(PS: I an known for my wit around the office so I appreciate your flattering reference to my phrase. :-) )

You could have easily checked out both lies that you dispute. Enough said.

some excellent examples.

Larry, have you been following the news on how costs for ObamaCare were seriously understated? Interesting how such came out only AFTER the law narrowly passed. Also Obama WAS crowing about the early GM "paybacks" just a few weeks ago. Both parties lie and Nora's examples are glaring ones that Dems have done lately.

Charles thank you for your astute perusal of this post. Wish there was some way you could share your gift of comprehension with some others on Gather who are sorely in need of help in that area!

Give them facts and they still deny the truth, so sad.

No comment.

No response.

Way to turn those tables!

Everyone needs to be on their toes to whether something is true or propaganda. Thanks for commenting.

This is a great post Nora. Fabulous research. I did notice that there were very few here willing or able to defend their support. Those that attempted to really were just blowing hot air. It is difficult after all, to defend the indefensible.

You do know that you are a racist for posting this. According to some on Gather, that is the only reason we are finding fault with this administration! LOL
It has nothing to do with his corruption or his inexperience, it's because he's black.

We just have to keep pushing the specifc points that we disagree with under this administation's agenda! And discrediting the lies from the Dems!

Exactly.
You know, I keep being accused of being a Republican, a Tea Partier, an extreme conservative, but at no time have I ever claimed to be any of them, nor have I ever claimed to support everything about any of them. I fight for what I believe is right and I oppose what I feel to be wrong. This country did not get to be the greatest nation in the world by blindly following what one person or group claims is the only way. For the first time in a lot of years the people are finally beginning to wake up to the fact that our nation is and has been taking a turn in a direction she was never meant to go. All that remains now is for the people to ensure that our voices are heard, not like what just happened with the health care bill. The best way to do that is for every voter to get out and vote these lifers out of office once and for all. Break down the "good ole' boys club" and let them know that not listening to and hearing their constituents will no longer be tolerated.

You have just made a very wise commentary with an accurate assemsent of the political situation. Everyone keeps asking "why didn't you fuss about...". but we are just now using the internet to truly get informed about all the tiny details. Like you said, "people are finally beginning to wake up"!

Thanks for such a great comment.

Thank you Nora. Together I think we can wake a lot more people, and as you said, the internet is bringing the smallest of details to the people. A wonderful invention this internet!

Unfortunately, all politicians seem to lie. Ok, maybe not ALL, but certainly most. I think maybe some of them go in as idealists and that gets ruined along the way. However, seems to be a whole lot of "hush-hush" politics going on over hte last couple of years. Kind of ironic for a president who claimed he wanted open communication. Apparently the only 'open' part is what he wants us to know....

An excellent post.