Update: Daniel Adkins Case - Killer Still Not Charged (Video)

The gun photo is on Cordell Jude's twitter account. The twitter account was posted on the "Justice for Daniel" Facebook page.

I heard about this case. I wondered what happened and if there was an arrest.

No arrests yet, Heather. I wonder why?

"One cannot just shoot another human being and call it self-defence."

on the contrary, one can say anything one feels like saying, under the first amendment. Yeah, it might be a lie, but if you can find a dumb jury, or police and DA offices that give too much deference to stand your ground laws, you can probably get away with it.

welcome to the Wild West. Check the calendar, is it 1870 again?

I don't even know where to start with your comment. I guess we can start with the fact that you do not trust the justice system and you believe nobody should have access to guns? Is that what you are saying?

Oh, I think we can Renee. Where is your outrage that you showed when a white Hispanic shot and killed a black person? Where are your posts coming out on the side of the white Hispanic as you did when you took the side of the black person when a black person was killed in the same manner? Where are your sarcastic replies like you showed on many of your posts on Zimmerman? Where is your moralistic high ground comments now Chris, two words come to mind. Frigging hypocrite.

frigging ignoramus yourself. I am very sympathetic to the family of Daniel Adkins and never said I was not. I am just saying that bullets do not care about the skin color of a victim, and stand your ground laws can often be granted far too much importance by juries and DAs and busy police departments.

The killing of Daniel Adkins is not the "Other Side of the Coin" for the Trayvon Martin shooting just because Adkins was Hispanic- nope, it's the SAME side of the coin. It's about our gun laws granting the benefit of the doubt to the man holding the gun, rather than the man receiving the bullet. The Martin/Zimmerman case was never primarily about racism, it was about the use of deadly force and the rule of law.

"I don't even know where to start with your comment. I guess we can start with the fact that you do not trust the justice system and you believe nobody should have access to guns? Is that what you are saying?"

not exactly, Renee. I am saying that the stand your ground laws give gun owners an incentive to solve their problems by pulling triggers, because in many cases the police will take their word for self-defence because of the laws. As to having access to guns, I think that the current system in many states, including my state of Virginia, is a bit loose. I could be be seriously mentally ill or an ex-convict, but I could buy anything I want at a public gun show in Virginia, because there is no background check.

We have let the genie out of the bottle as regards handguns- so many out there and there is no realistic way to get them out of the hands of incompetent or mentally ill persons. But the NRA has been able to engineer laws that are way too "hands off." And when an insane person gets a gun and goes on a shooting spree (examples: the gabrielle giffords shooter and the Virginia Tech shooter) it is NEVER the fault of the loose gun laws. Not for the NRA.

No Chris, the "Stand Your Ground" laws give citizens the right to "stand their ground" when a confrontation is turning violent on them, the way it did when Trayvon Martin pummeled Zimmerman's head into the concrete, which the court is eventually going to prove.

Gun laws aren't the problem; the people who misuse them are, like this Taco Bell case, where the shooter was safely encased in a large vehicle--away from the dog threat he would have us believe motivated his actions.

Police made the right call originally with Zimmerman, and it makes me wonder if the cops in the Taco Bell case might have made the wrong call on this other case due to the backlash the Florida cops got in the Trayvon Martin ruling.

If so, that is an excellent example of why racial activists shouldn't be allowed to interfere in local government agencies and court systems like happened in Florida. And why the DOJ did more harm than good by sending down a force of lawyers as well.

"Gun laws aren't the problem; the people who misuse them are, like this Taco Bell case, where the shooter was safely encased in a large vehicle--away from the dog threat he would have us believe motivated his actions." agree.

Now, to Chris' point, if that man did not have a gun, this would not have happened. But Chris, there are consequences if you cannot properly claim self-defense. So, that should be a deterrent, this guy (I hope) seems to be an anomaly. This guy should be put in jail (at least based on the information we have, does there seem to be any doubt)?

The circumstances here are tragic, but in a story like the one about Jesse Gates, a citizen with a gun prevented tragedy.

The question is, what are the statistics of the gun law being used legitimately versus an itchy trigger finger??

"Trayvon Martin pummeled Zimmerman's head into the concrete, which the court is eventually going to prove."

how convenient that Zimmerman is the only living witness. yeah, good luck with that. In both cases, Zimmerman and the other guy, the shooter over-reacted to a harmless situation. it is what it is.

"Gun laws aren't the problem; the people who misuse them are, like this Taco Bell case, where the shooter was safely encased in a large vehicle--"

yeah, the NRA has been saying that for decades, yet the killing continues. Seung Hui cho managed to blow away over 20 students and faculty at Virginia Tech. Let's see Seung Hui Cho kill 20 people with a hammer or a screwdriver.

"Police made the right call originally with Zimmerman,"

oh really? You are actually arguing that Zimmerman should STILL not have a court date? Here's the thing- if you use deadly force to defend yourself, you should have a court date. Even Cops are investigated when they use deadly force. There is no way private citizens should be judged by a softer standard than a trained peace officer.

You will not that unlike yourself I am NOT playing the race card. I don't care if you are black, white, brown, or purple with yellow polka dots. If you use deadly force, you should have a court date. Period.

So Chris, where do you stand? What is the solution, from your perspective?

This is the best article I've seen on this case so far. Better than CNN's for sure. I am getting worried that nothing is going to be done. If anyone reading this hasn't done so already, please sign the petition. http://www.change.org/petitions/justice-for-daniel-adkins

Thank you, Brittany! People are tiptoeing around the facts in this case. I would like to know how the killer is not being charged, it has almost been a month! Another travesty of justice is the Nick Stokes case, another one that has received any attention. I am keeping an eye on that one, as well.

that has NOT received attention ;-)

Most of those cases on the CNN link involved Spanish surnames, and projections are that they'll be in the majority in another 20-30 years~glad I won't be around!

Ms. Lady, I have to ask, when you say "Most of those cases on the CNN link involved Spanish surnames", how the heck is that relevant?

Relevant to the fact that if whites want to preserve their majority status in this country (US), they're best bet is to start a race war between Blacks & Hispanics~just a theory, but I'm already seeing the symptoms...

"if whites want to preserve their majority status in this country (US)", and "best bet is to start a race war between Blacks & Hispanics".... huh? Do you think that is what "whites" are trying to do? "I'm already seeing the symptoms..." What symptoms?

Yeah, I do & I'm not providing info x to my kids~I will say keep your eyes open beyond your li'l back yard.

I think if anyone wants a race war, it is the New Black Panther Party. I don't think "whites" want to see a "race war" between blacks and Hispanics. Do you have anything to back that up?

The black Panthers and good old rev Sharp are the ones that are racking up the racial hatred in your country with their racial comments and their racial rallies, no one else just them.

I also notice that there is no condemnation of the black person killing the Hispanic like you did in the condemnation of Zimmerman, where is your outrage now? I will stop short of calling you and hypocrite like the one I did on another person’s comment.

Honestly Graham, it is difficult to see the differences in these cases, except that in the Trayvon Martin case, George Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch, and this man almost hit Adkins with his car, I would think that even if he felt threatened, Jude could have driven away. In the statement to police he said that he did not have a choice but to shoot, as the dog was in the way of his car.... so he shot and killed a man?

I guess cars in America do not have reverse as they do in other countries :-)

Honestly, this is the first I have heard about this case I am glad you have brought it to the attention of the rest of the world. The liberals made sure in their warped way to publicise the Zimmerman case as a race hate crime.

"I guess cars in America do not have reverse as they do in other countries :-)" --

Laughs!

The fastest way to create dissent in this Country is to use the ruse of "race." And, it is both cynical and despicable.

All are welcome here; the main reason race is employed points to this fact. And, it seems to work...for and with fools.

"Do you have anything to back that up?"

Back what up, my thoughts & opinions??? I pay attention to things bigger than the tiny enclave I live in, and am cognizant of how the race issue still embroils people in heated debates & vile rhetoric. I feel MSM plays a part in fanning the flames, as in the Trayvon Martin case, and several recent incidents (e.g. Maine & Calif) have shown a disturbing trend toward "bunker mentality." Just observations Renee, but you don't live in this country, so you don't see the things I do...

Thanks Graham, nobody is talking about this and when they do, the articles are politically charged, talking about gun laws.

Mark-John, "The fastest way to create dissent in this Country is to use the ruse of "race." And, it is both cynical and despicable." This tactic is so old and annoying.

August Lady, "Back what up, my thoughts & opinions??" I just thought it was a heavy observation (that whites want blacks and Hispanics to start a "race war") and when I ask if you have anything to back up your "opinion", I thought you could give me an instance or two of prominent white people calling for or inciting such a thing.

I gave my explanation & if that ain't good enough...well, TS!

Oh, I just noticed, am I being called a hypocrite??? Well, I don't know the whole story here, & I certainly can't count on Renee to tell it, esp. with her propensity towards biased posts! And Graham, you of all people should talk~you defend an armed adult & I don't care what his f'n race is shooting an unarmed child...and I don't care what his race is either, but obviously, you do!

"can't count on Renee to tell it, esp. with her propensity towards biased posts!" Whoa? What did I do? Is this post biased, August Lady? Why attack me? I always try to be fair to you.

No, you don't, but that's beside the point...Ever since the Trayvon case, you've been posting numerous posts depicting black "hate" crimes, even espousing on "black on black" crimes(like you're an authority?!!). Like I said, the writing's on the wall with whites (which I gather includes you) & MSM (& others, including the BPP) stirring up the masses to incite. When that happens, I hope those responsible will own up. But, we both know that won't happen because they'll be silently smirking in their handiwork...if they survive!

When have I not been fair to you? You neglect to mention that I post on white on black crimes, as well. I choose stories that the MSM media does not cover. I point out hypocrisy. As far as the "black on black" story, I chose two articles, both written by African-Americans and compared them. One thought that "Black on black" crime is a "crisis", one believed that it is a "myth". Please, tell me, give me one line in any of my comments or articles, that you believe to be racist. Is this story racist? Just because I say the word "black" does. not. make. me. a. racist.

This is crazy. No arrest in the land of Arpaio? Arizona is a very odd place.

What an unhappy story. Any death before senility is a tragedy, but this...

"Air swung?"

Yes, "Air swung", and let me tell you, if someone almost hits me with their car, I may do a bit of "air-swinging" myself. The family is really suffering and my heart goes out to them.

Shameful. We always have options, rather than violence. He was in a car - just drive away. What's this bull about a dog being in his way. You mean he couldn't run over a dog, but, he could shoot and kill an unarmed man?

I am sure in less than one minute into his confrontation with the victim, he knew this man was mentally challenged. He should have treated this man as a grown person would treat a child, just walk away. This would be like me fighting with my 11 year old niece - senseless.

I think he should be charged with first degree murder, there was no excuse whatsoever.

Gloria, this guy would be called trigger-happy by the cops, as he had several courses of legitimate (and safe) action to take to avoid a confrontation that left an unarmed man dead.

George Zimmerman had not such option once Trayvon started beating his head into the sidewalk.

It just goes to show that there is a racial agenda afoot in America by those, like Obama, who are making everything about civil rights instead of American rights. And here's one Hispanic family suffering for it, as their loved one deserved justice for this unjust shooting.

With the information we have Gloria, it seems quite senseless. Hopefully this man will be arrested and the truth will come out through the system, but it does not look good. Thank you and Jane for your comments....

Update; killer still not charged. But at least it is not "case closed" as of yet, ""There are a couple of things left that we have asked police to follow up on in order for us to review the case and I think we are going to be able to do that in the next couple of weeks," said Bill Montgomery, the Maricopa County attorney."

I heard about this several weeks ago on GBTV. This story is how you know that Obama was only attempting to ratchet up his radical base, Farrakhan, Sharpton, and Jackson, to cause problems. He wants chaos. He wants trouble before the next election.

I'm so tired of the racebaiter-in-chief. He cannot get re-elected.

Thanks Roryann. I agree that the Trayvon case became about race in the MSM, what a travesty.

Another sad case. This guy had so many options, he sure took the chicken's way out, for sure. Very, very sad.

It seems that way, Char. I just can't imagine how the shooter could feel threatened enough to kill this man...

First I've heard of this. Thanks for bringing it to the forefront Renee.

Thank you, Timothy, hopefully justice will prevail for Daniel and his family.

(CNN) -- A task force created by Florida Gov. Rick Scott to examine the state's "Stand Your Ground" law in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting meets for the first time Tuesday.

Seventeen people will tackle the issue of whether the controversial law should be changed in light of the death of the unarmed teenager.....

Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, who is leading the Task Force on Citizens Safety and Protection, said the group is "highly qualified" and includes people from "many different points of view" who are "racially, regionally and professionally diverse."

The task force includes a retired judge, attorneys experienced in both prosecution and defense and members of neighborhood watch programs. Two state representatives are on the task force, one of them the author of the Stand Your Ground bill in the House, Carroll said. The list of 17 members also shows two state senators.

There are no representatives from the National Rifle Association on the task force, Carroll said in response to a question. But the task force will hear from people on various sides of the issue at public events throughout the state.

maybe they need to convene such a task force in Arizona as well?

Well, I guess there are several states with these types of laws, right? Chris, I hear your concern. Your example above, "when an insane person gets a gun and goes on a shooting spree (examples: the gabrielle giffords shooter and the Virginia Tech shooter) it is NEVER the fault of the loose gun laws." If a responsible person with a gun was around for either of those occasions, the killers would have been brought down. LESS people would have died, not more.

I am curious, did the shooters in both of those cases have licence to carry?

yes they did. Both bought their weapons at gun shops. neither one had any problem passing the background check, even though both would probably have failed a mental wellness test.

Yes, they probably would have, interesting.

The death of this man demands justice.

Thank you Carol, I agree, There is a "Justice for Daniel" FB page, which is actually how I found the killer's Twitter address and saw the picture of the gun in his photos.

If people like Chris get their way, none of us will be allowed to defend ourselves with guns even if an armed intruder breaks into our homes.

I do believe, though, there is serious doubt about whether this guy had a reasonable fear of serious bodily injury or death while protected inside a car.

And he chose to shoot a man rather than hit a dog with a car? Seriously? THAT's a "no choice" self-defense argument?

And Timothy... how do you get that silly-dam'-nonsense out of what Chris wrote? All he did was report that Florida is looking at revising their SYG Law. How does that lead your tiny mind to, "If people like Chris get their way, none of us will be allowed to defend ourselves with guns even if an armed intruder breaks into our homes."?

I suspect that the shooter will eventually be brought in, as the officials are most likely taking their time building a case. You can bet I will be watching this one. The poor family, I cannot even imagine what they are going through, they seem like really nice people.

" And Timothy... how do you get that silly-dam'-nonsense out of what Chris wrote? All he did was report that Florida is looking at revising their SYG Law. How does that lead your tiny mind to, "

Mr. Upchuck... I think Chris should be the one questioning me on that. He's a grown man after all, so I'm sure that he can do just find with out you taking up for him.

Well Timmy, I don't care who you are, that's funny stuff, raht ther.

Well, if it ain't Larry the freaking Cable Guy.

I just want to commend Renne for writing about this in a truthful way with out any agenda in mind other than justice. I also think it's great that Renne replies to all the comments. A very compassionate and gifted individual.

Thank you so much, Brittany! A wonderful compliment coming from you, especially considering that you have been so involved in this case. It is amazing that nobody is talking about it! It drives me crazy!!!

I think it is sad that this case leads to discussion on gun laws and race. I am not saying those issues are not valid, but how about justice for Daniel?

I agree. The thing that disturbs me most about this is that police let the shooter walk away like it was no big deal. If my brother, husband or dad were to get shot tomorrow for no reason, I would hate for the police to tell the shooter "Ok, well we got your name...see ya later." I mean, he killed a human being. It wasn't a traffic violation.

YES, it is the startling "casualness" of it all. The fact that the shooter and his girlfriend were talking about smoking weed and baby showers right around the time that Jude murdered a human being! If I had to kill someone for any reason, I would be impacted. Life would not go on as usual for awhile, I know that. I would need time to grieve.

Renne, message me on the fb page. If you'd like to do any interviews I know that some of the family is willing. Daniel's father, devastated and emotionally drained, is letting his brother speak for him about Daniel's case.

Will do, Brittany!

It may just be me, but when I hear stories like this, I'm even more grateful for the protection and security that my gun provides me with. Banning guns altogether would only take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens. We would be easy targets for criminals.

"Banning guns altogether would only take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens." agree.